Aha, I didn't know NCAA 2K3 existed! Thanks RR for the heads up!! I've been playing EA Sports' old NCAA series recently too and was thinking it's almost criminal how vastly better than Madden it is in every respects. It's another bittersweet thing though isn't it, as then we start thinking how sensible it would be if we had Madden NFL inside the superior ESPN NCAA game engine at least. Nevermind a potential 2015 NFL game engine today inside NBA2K16 or Sony San Diego MLB The Show studios... *cries* EA Tiburon = Inspector Clouseau and I am Herbert Lom going insane eye twitching just thinking about how EA Tiburon + NFL's gay marriage utterly destroyed NFL videogames over the last decade! They knew that enough gullible victims would fall for their scam and carry on buying Madden regardless. EA Tiburon are the Enron of the videogames industry.